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Oct 04, 2007

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"In particular, Monsanto argued in the alternative that its Claim 4 is (1) not a dependent and (2) even if a dependent does not require all the limitations of Claim 1."

LOL!!!!!! The scent of desperation in the courtroom must have been visible as a thick brown cloud.

As it happens, I was at the court that day, as this case was heard right before mine. All I remember about this is being very confused about what Monsanto was arguing. The judges seemed to be having difficulty following Monsanto's argument as well.

The court did not treat Claim 4 as a single-step method of using a product made by the three-step process recited in Claim 1. Instead, this court treated this as a four-step method and, since the three steps were performed prior to the issuance of the patent, there was no infringement.

What if -- instead of claiming "A process comprising obtaining progeny from a fertile transgenic plant obtained by the process of claim 1 which comprise said DNA." -- Claim 4 claimed "A process comprising obtaining a progeny from a fertile transgenic plant, the fertile transgenic plant having been previously obtained by [steps of process]."? Is there any way to draft claims to cover the use of a product-made-by-a-process where the user did not make the product?

"Is there any way to draft claims to cover the use of a product-made-by-a-process where the user did not make the product?
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Yes. They're called "method claims."

Referring to the use of "a product-made-by-a-process" in a method claim, however, is just as silly as any product-by-process claim itself.

If you want a claim to the use of a product, describe the product in an unambiguous way, i.e., without resorting to a discussion of the product's history.

Maybe the drafter meant this to be a method claim, and to add a fourth step, and the litigation counsel decided to foist this argument on the court.

Can you imagine if all the alternative language used in dependent claims were read to not include all limitions of the incorporated claim? Chaos and uncertainty would ensue. Kinda hard to believe it was even argued.

If there was novelty and unobviousness in doing the 4th step of dependent claim 4 (the main dependent claim), claim 4 could have been written as an independent claim to refer to the end product of the first 3 steps of claim 1. For example, claim 4 might have been written as "A process for obtaining progeny from a fertile transgenic plant comprising the steps of: (a) providing progeny from a fertile plant having the DNA created [by whatever the first 3 steps were in claim 1] ; and (b) obtaining progeny from the fertile plant of step (a). In other words, load all the steps that are practiced by the patentee into step (a) so that all that's needed for direct infringement is to do step (b). What surprises me is that, if the patentee was certain to practice the first 3 steps of claim 1, why the patentee didn't create such an independent claim 4 (as suggested) to cover the more likely infringement scenario. (It's possible that the patentee feared that step of claim 4 might not be patentable by itself and for this reason didn't put in such an independent claim, but it still might have been worth a try.)

Under the new rules you may be forced to write these claims as dependent to get under the 5/25 rule - but the PTO claims there is no effect on patents of the new rules.

I can find noone who thinks filing an ESD is a good idea.

If the method claim had been directed to a product "obtain*able* by the process of cl.1" rather than "obtain*ed* by ...", would that have done the trick?

Who really knows, but I would not think so. If you write a dependent claim the case law is clear you bring in each and every limitation no matter the language. What makes this weird is the product by process angle though, as you point out.

"What makes this weird is the product by process angle"

Indeed. That is because the case law relating to product-by-process claims is very "weird" and will remain so until The Great Day When Such Claims Cease To Be.

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