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Why do I get the impression that there are more patent attorneys than inventors?
What about listing listings for inventors?
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM
to-just an ordinary inventor There is way way more attorneys than inventors of significance there has been only four since 1790 and only possibly eight total in history.
Posted by: Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence. | Mar 26, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Is that comprising me?
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM
JAOI,
Large corporations churn out hundreds of inventions they want patented, each year. We have an endless stream of patents to draft for various large clients.
Posted by: Lowly | Mar 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM
This may be off topic, but I am starting law school next year and was wondering if taking the patent bar exam before school started would help me get a job during my 1L summer?
Thanks,
Examiner
Posted by: Examiner | Mar 26, 2008 at 11:26 AM
If he deemed me qualified, I'd rather work as a paralegal for Spencer Hosie, Esq. at Hosie McArthur LLP. Below are excerpts are from his brilliant tell-it-like-it-is article titled “DEFENDING THE TROLLS” which was circulated Monday (3/24/08) in “IP Law 360” published by Portfolio Media, Inc. www.law360.com :
“… VERY EFFECTIVE LOBBYING. Organizations like the “Coalition for Patent Fairness,” and the “Business Software Alliance,” have done a remarkably effective job disparaging the patent system generally. [emphasis added; insert: Yes, of course, Cisco Systems, Inc. is a member of “Business Software Alliance”]
“The ceaseless drumbeat about patent trolls and extortionate litigation has made a difference, as evidenced by the effort to ensure “patent reform” in Washington. … to impugne the entire system is both deceptive and unfair.
“The irony in all this, of course, is that the question of troll status is entirely a matter of subjective opinion. Is IBM a troll if it enforces patents it does not practice? …
“… But what do the merits of a patent claim have to do with whether the plaintiff practices the patent, or once did but no longer does?
“It seems SELF-EVIDENT that the value of a patent should not depend on who owns the claim; there are good patents and there are bad patents. [emphasis added] …
“And if an IBM seeks to enforce a bad patent, it should not get a free ride simply because it is IBM.
“AT THE END OF THE DAY, EITHER WE RESPECT AND PROTECT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OR WE DO NOT. AND IF WE DO NOT, INNOVATION ITSELF WILL BE THE LOSER.” [emphasis added]
The author of this tell-it-like-it-is article titled “DEFENDING THE TROLLS,”
“Spencer Hosie, founded what is now Hosie McArthur LLP. In addition to his active trial practice, he serves as advisor to the American Law Institute, Restatement of Torts: Liability for Economic Loss.”
These excerpts were posted by a commenter called “They call me “SELF-EVIDENCE” (but that is probably only a nickname) on the “Patent Troll Tracker & Cisco's New Blog Policy” thread – the link goes to one of my loudly outspoken comments on that thread:
http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2008/03/patent-troll-tr.html#comment-108246272
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 26, 2008 at 11:27 AM
"This may be off topic, but I am starting law school next year and was wondering if taking the patent bar exam before school started would help me get a job during my 1L summer?
Thanks,
Examiner"
Taking it won't. Passing it might.
Posted by: Veteran Attorney | Mar 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Examiner, if you want a job in patent law, passing the patent bar will help get you in.
You should also be aware, however, that having the patent bar on your resume will cause firms without a patent group to pass you over.
That was my experience anyway, and I hadn't even taken the patent bar. I just had all of the engineering degrees and work on my resume, and I was told point blank by general practice firms that they assumed that I was going to want to do patent law.
Posted by: Mark Pitchford | Mar 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM
"I just had all of the engineering degrees and work on my resume, and I was told point blank by general practice firms that they assumed that I was going to want to do patent law."
Law firm attorneys reveal themselves to be the lamest sorts of dumbaxxes sometimes. Do they turn down English majors because they assume they want to do copyright law?
Similarly, I've heard complaints from attorneys *in* law firms getting "boxed out" of doing some work because they have Ph.D.s. The "logic" is that a lawyer with a Ph.D. in, e.g., quantum chemistry, is somehow less capable of performing certain tasks than a lawyer with a bachelor's degree in history.
The real explanation is a combination of ignorance and insecurity on the part of the partners in these firms, most of whom stopped learning math in 9th grade.
Btw, here's some amusing Easter-themed patents to ponder:
http://blawgit.com/?p=617
Posted by: Malcolm Mooney | Mar 26, 2008 at 07:07 PM
Examiner: it won't particularly help, especially if you have an engineering degree (and/or relevant experience) on your resume. Do something fun 1L year, don't work for a firm. For the patent bar, wait until 2L summer, do good work and get an offer, then negotiate for the firm to pay for your studies and take the patent bar 3L. In the meantime, get good grades; that will open many more doors than a registration number will.
Posted by: bored3L | Mar 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM
JAOI Wile invention of significance happens only to myself hundreds of thousands of what pto considers inventions occur yearly product protection or thicket patents attempt to retard progressive invention and control markets. Vague and evasive filings attempt to steal invention by restricting catigories of invention. Patenting of instructions and design changes all have the common denominator of producing no new marketable products. They also Have no marketable value. Their only value is to the company issued to therefore they are trash patents clogging our system wile delaying the issue of important patents of significance.For genuine invention contact wwwinventingcreator.net arguably your only source of unseen unherd of original major inventions.This makes the list of actual inventors very short.
Posted by: Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence. | Mar 27, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Dear Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence,
Yes, Yes okay, I trust what you say, A1 lauwyer would no't say anthing or notinig but what is Just so, of course.
Ok, youse guys, you herd it, liten up and enJoy Joy & your enlightenment & by all means, be happie.
That's what makes life interesting VARIETY, many views on the same b/w subject.
And toleration for others’ views is what makes us all so civil, no matter how wrong they obviously are.
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 27, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Examiner,
Just being a patent examiner will help you get a job in patent law your 1L summer. Passing the patent bar is probably not necessary for you at this point, and as noted, may harm. Just taking the exam itself is not cheap and I recommend waiting until the firm you eventually work for will pay the cost. My own experience - I took it during my third year and my firm said it wouldn't cover the cost b/c I was not an associate at the time.
You can probably mitigate any assumption that you only want to do patent law by leaving your patent bar passage off of your resume. Or by saying upfront you are not that interested in it; after all, you already know what it's about, and learning what kind of law you want to practice is one point of the 1L and 2L summer job (besides income, I mean).
Posted by: lower | Mar 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Dear JAOI(TM),
I think you've been outdone by Mr. Thomas. He seems to be in a class by himself, arguably the only inventor of signifence.
His web page (which describes the scope of his inventing expertise) is apparently at:
http://inventingconsultantcreator.net/
Posted by: real anonymous | Mar 27, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Dear real anonymous,
Thank you. It took some doing, I'll say. Mr. Thomas is a real pips.
I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't to this job (job?) if I didn’t laugh a lot, else I'd be crying and mean most of the time.
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 27, 2008 at 12:07 PM
to JAOI No seriously for the (correct inventing line not who the patent office issues to) on all inventions of significance call for the real story on how it was invented. Most I have pulled back into memory for discussion.
Posted by: Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence. | Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Dear Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence,
Ring, Ring... Ring, Ring
Is anybody there?, anybody, Beuller?
I'll try again after 5 and I'm off work; will you be a round then or flat?
Posted by: Just an ordinary inventor(TM) | Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32 PM
JAOI Cant blame you for your skeptical humor this is a huge case of high level corruption in and out of patent office some 217 years old in this country.Then back in history to the egyptions 2500bc.For those predijucial or belligerent it will do no good to call because it takes two weeks of listening to even begin to believe it and you dont appear to be a patient man. By The way what did you invent?
Posted by: Michael R. Thomas arguably the worlds only inventor of signifence. | Mar 27, 2008 at 02:13 PM
"JAOI . . . By The way what did you invent?"
JAOI invented software that generates pithy patriotic quotes at the touch of a button.
Posted by: Malcolm Mooney | Mar 27, 2008 at 02:46 PM
I invented every thing of significance since since 1953.Such as computer software all major software concepts Dvd cd and every individual electronic part of the computer except my grandfathers stuff before 1953. Also original computer 1954 burroughs computer chip micro processor pentium processor personal computer lap top fiberoptic cable internet concept ect ect ect. in other words the top 10000.
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