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Nov 06, 2009

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"creating an infringement loophole without providing any countervailing patentability benefit"

A great insight into claim drafting.

Also, good advice about advantages. The advantages should be implicit.

THIS is why i tune in, not that anti-patent, anti-software, garbage.

hind, D will let just about anyone post an article.

Ironically, I was just thinking today about when a preamble might ever be helpful, and sadly this article didn't convince me that a preamble is *ever* useful. I'm still willing, even hoping, to be convinced since it seems to be accepted practice.

If every limitation in the preamble is also in claim, why have you said it twice? Is "A method comprising: assigning an individual portion of digital media to a particular portion of a memory based on whether or not content of that portion includes video data; selecting one of the individual portions by..." less patentable somehow?

Similarly, if your structure inherently performs a function, why should you say what it is in the claim? Anticipating structure will also inherently perform the function. What is gained?

In the extreme, is a preamble even required? Could a claim just not have one? "I CLAIM: 1) Structure A; Structure B; and Structure C coupling Structure A to Structure B."

Ron Slusky's book and his advice is excellent. I highly recommend it to everyone. I have been fortunate to have been one of his pupils, and he taught me a great deal.

I'm told that wordy preambles are more useful in soliciting venture capital. If so, then it's probably best to include only terms that are already recited in the body of the claims.

smart venture capital would realize that wordy preambles are self defeating. use other marketing tools to appeal to the venture capitalists and keep integrity of claims intact.

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Can't a preamble sometimes save you from having a court construe your claim to cover prior art during litigation? That seems like an advantage.

Billy James:
I'm told you need one just to specify what statutory class you're in, and also to include an open-ended word like "comprising." Your proposed claim might not cover ABCD even if it covers ABC.

Having said that, it might be fun to see how far you can get with "A thing comprising..."

How 'bout

Something comprised of, ...

or

Anything comprised of, ...

or

Any old thing comprised of, ...

or

One or more embodiments of the present invention comprised of, ...

or

A method comprised of , ...

or

A system comprised of, ...

or

Software configured in an apparatus comprised of, ...

or

Programming adapted to a device comprised of, ...

- - - - followed by

... etc.

Considering the example, there are four choices I would consider:
"An automobile floor mat"
"A floor mat"
"An automobile mat"
"A mat"

I'm not sure the word "floor" hurts, because I can't think of anywhere else that you put a mat in an automobile, except maybe the trunk, and I think I could still argue that's a floor.

I agree the word "automobile" hurts.

I don't know if the word "mat" itself hurts.

Just an ordinary. Interesting enough, Dennis had a blog topic that addresed the use of the phrase "comprised of" (which should be comprising or composed of. bte, and it got the drafter (inventor) into a bit of trouble that required an appeal to reverse.

(Excuse my typos, etc; re-posted now)
Just an ordinary:
Interestingly enough, Dennis had a blog topic that addresed the use of the phrase "comprised of" (which should be comprising or composed of, btw, and it got the drafter (inventor/applicant) into a bit of trouble that required an appeal to reverse.

Non-generic preambles can help make a claim easier to understand, and thus help readers identify the invention. The bias that the preamble is not a limitation encourages patentees to use non-generic preambles to help the readers of their claims.

The worry that a preamble is a claim limitation only afflicts those who did not properly claim their invention, or who are trying to stretch the claims beyond what they thought they had invented at the time they wrote their claims. An inventor of a general purpose mat is making a mistake claiming (only) an automobile floor mat; some claims of broader scope should be presented. On the other hand, the inventor of an automobile floor mat may not be making a mistake claiming an automobile floor mat. The mistake may be trying to stretch claims on an automobile floor mat to cover other kinds of mats never contemplated by the inventor.

In claim drafting, there is no substitute for correctly identifying the inventive concept at the outset.


Dear Former American,

Firstly, please be an American again -- it is all we can be since other choices suck worse. And, there is no way in hell Obama will ever be elected to any office again, God willing.

Secondly, yes, I remember the thread.
It was Judge Newman's worse decision in her career!
She got suckered-in.
"Comprised of" was the only thing she got right.

I understand that "comprise" (and all its derivations) is "open ended," and that "consist" (and all its derivations) is not, in patentese, but what about "compose"?

Is your comment to say that "comprise" and "compose" and there derivations are both open ended?

Another issue with premables is as soon as the premable is something that is not generic, the claim is potentially open to a attack/rejection for missing a critical element. Specifically, one way of invalidating the claims is for a clever litigator to figure out a how to contrue the claim so that an element is missing that is crtical to the functioning of the device/method decribed in the premable.

It seems to me that writing a preamble potentially introduces ambiguities (sometimes ones that are not foreseen in advance), and I not sure why or when one you would want ambiguities in a claim. Maybe sometimes such ambiguities are beneficial or give the patent owner something that is beneficial in litigation, but I just don't see when that might be the case.

Preambles are easy. Assume that the Examiner will not give anything in the preamble patentable weight and assume that an infringer will require that everything in the preamble be found in the infringing device.

Preambles can be useful to introduce a couple of terms that you want to later on discuss in the body of the claim without messing up the flow.

For those experienced claim drafters there are "claim limitations" that aren't exactly limiting. Since claims are not required to enable the invention, there are a whole lot of things you can leave out. As such, whether these items actually get put into the claim (e.g., in the preamble) is a matter of taste -- just remember the two rules I gave you.

I am not and have never been an examiner, nor do I even play one on this website.

But my guess is that a narrower preamble would effect the scope of the examiner's' prior art searches and what they consider to be analogous art.

regarding the preamble:

1) non-analogous art is ONLY an issue in 103 rejections, if you have a 102 meeting all of the claimed structure, and it can perform the intended use/functional limitation (if there is one claimed), then you reject

2) the preamble only will impact the examiners search in method claims (at least in my mechanical art)

3) i've seen plenty of claims that begin with: "An article of manufacture, comprising:" - that's the easiest way (that i've seen) to get around this preamble junk

regarding the preamble:

1) non-analogous art is ONLY an issue in 103 rejections, if you have a 102 meeting all of the claimed structure, and it can perform the intended use/functional limitation (if there is one claimed), then you reject

2) the preamble only will impact the examiners search in method claims (at least in my mechanical art)

3) i've seen plenty of claims that begin with: "An article of manufacture, comprising:" - that's the easiest way (that i've seen) to get around this preamble junk

Maybe Mr Slusky would agree that thinking about the preamble is no substitute for thinking through just what the invention is, and then ensuring that every word of the specification and claims is consistent with the inventive concept. Otherwise, whatever preamble you choose will hurt you.

If the invention is a new sheet, don't claim a mat. If it's a mat for a vehicle driver, don't claim an automobile mat, and so on.

But setting the preamble too broad can also have consequences, as others have noted. The more so outside the USA. If it can be shown that at least one sort of "sheet" with your features is obvious, then amending down to mat, or floor mat, or vehicle floor mat, or automobile mat, might feel like successive attempts to get the tip of your ice pick to bite, as you slide towards the precipice of invalidity. After all, you yourself said at the outset that your "automobile mat" is just a fancy name for a sheet.

What is a non-analogous art in the world of KSR?

I'll leave to others the pleasure of answering the Breadcrumbs question (assuming that it isn't merely rhetorical). I was only thinking that more and more Americans contemplate filing also outside the home jurisdiction. Suppose that choosing a particular preamble has +ve consequences within the US but -ve ones everywhere outside the US, how's a poor drafter (wherever in the world she is) supposed to do the right thing?

I continue doggedly to adhere to the idea that, while caselaw changes, what constitutes "good" drafting is universal, and endures in perpetuity.

Cue for Paul Cole.

I created the example using Dennis’s exemplary preamble, “A method for content selection of digital media…” simply to show a case in which a “wordy” preamble might be harmless enough—at least in theory--because the preamble doesn’t introduce anything that isn’t in the body of the claim anyway. But Billy James is 100% correct in saying that that particular claim is equally patentable without the preamble and so better to leave it out.

That being said, there are any number of reasons why a “wordy” preamble can be useful:

1. Sometimes trying to put everything into the body of the claim can make the overall claim more wordy than if particular limitations are put in the preamble. This isn’t so much of an issue for physical structure types of inventions—which are typically amenable to an “Apparatus comprising” type of preamble— but can often come up when writing a claim directed to, for example, a component or module designed for use in a system environment and you are writing a claim limited to the component itself. Been there many times.

2. To establish an intended-to-be-limiting structural environment for a method claim.

3. To enhance the diversity of the overall claim suite by having claims with both minimal and “wordy” preambles. (See my book on the general topic of claim diversity.)

4. To recite characteristics of, say, an input signal that claimed apparatus is going to do something to. Putting such limitations in the preamble emphasizes to the claim interpreter that apparatus for (or the step of) generating such a signal is outside of the claimed subject matter.

5. Etc.

Ron Slusky

RE: non-analogous art. There's a 2008 CAFC decision that has a phrase along the lines that one of ordinary skill in the art is attributed with all relevant knowledge.

Re: non-analogous art

From KSR:
"When a work is available in one field of endeavor, design incentives and other market forces can prompt variations of it, either in the same field or a different one."

Also from KSR:
"Under the correct analysis, any need or problem known in the field and addressed by the patent can provide a reason for combining the elements in the manner claimed"


The old analogous art test was (1) was it in the same field of endeavor, and if not (2) was it reasonably pertinent to the problem being solved. KSR spoke many times to the "field of endeavor," so that has not been abandoned. Instead, KSR has modified "reasonably pertinent to the problem being solved" to "reasonably pertinent to a known problem in the field of the endeavor."

Thus, you cannot take a piece of prior art from a different field of endeavor and use it to solve a problem that was not known in the field of endeavor.

Although people seem to forget this, obviousness is based upon what would have been obvious to one skilled in the art. If one skilled in the art does not know about the teachings (because of a different field of endeavor) and does not know of a problem that can be solved by by the reference, then one skilled in the art would not have looked outside the field of endeavor to find this reference.

"...in the same field or a different one."

vs.

"reasonably pertinent to a known problem in the field of the endeavor."

hmm, seems like two different things being said.

If you intend to use your preamble to limit, then make sure you use a term that is used in the body of the claim.

If you don't have a specific reason to use the preamble to have some limiting effect, then don't put excess words in the preamble.

The notion that preambles should always be simple is pedandtic and one of the things that irks me about some patent lawyers, they forgot how to think...

Grass is green. The sky is blue. Words in a patent claim (anywhere in the claim) limit the claimed invention.

This is not exactly groundbreaking news.

I'm curious. Are there patent attorneys out there who don't already know this?

Bryan said:

"The worry that a preamble is a claim limitation only afflicts those who did not properly claim their invention, or who are trying to stretch the claims beyond what they thought they had invented at the time they wrote their claims."

Bingo! #1 rule in claim drafting: Claim your invention, because an overly-broad claim will get shot down either by the examiner or the defendant.

This is news to anyone? As with any part of a claim, don't use a term unless you're ok with it being a limitation.

Having reviewed the Federal Circuit case law relating to when preambles will be given "weight" for the purposes of patentability or infringement, my general rule of thumb now is to avoid preambles. What I've seen tells me that the Federal Circuit is, at best, inconsistent on when preambles matter, and at worst for patentees, either gives the preamble no weight in determining patentability (thus rendering the patent invalid), or gives it weight in determining there is no infringement. Put differently, my philosophy on claim drafting is "less is more" (i.e., broader coverage).

If the "element" or "feature" (I also avoid characterizing the language in the claim as a "limitation" because of the baggage that word carries in infringement analyses) is needed for patentability, be decisive and put it in the body of the claim (i.e., after the transitional word "comprising," etc.). For example, if you want (or more importantly need) to claim an automobile floor mat, write the claim as follows: "An article comprising an automobile floor mat comprising [then defined the needed elements/features of the automobile floor mat]." Otherwise, use one word to describe generically what statutory class the invention belongs to in the preamble and leave it at that.


" my general rule of thumb now is to avoid preambles. "

As I said above, these kinds of "rules of thumb" are overly pedantic and based on the illusion that "rules of thumb" can absolve you of the hard work involved in analyzing each application, or each claim set within an application, on the individual merits.

If you have to write claims for, for example, complicated communications inventions in crowded arts, then, IMHO, you need a detailed preamble to "set the stage."

Federal Circuit rationalizing aside, "comprised of" is, simply, wrong.

The only reason the Federal Circuit legitimized the otherwise improper usage is because so many otherwise smart people get this wrong all the time.

There are many websites of prominent law firms that use phrases like "...our IP practice group is comprised of attorneys having..."

How embarrassing if they were actually called on it (even though some marketing type probably wrote the copy).

> There is nothing in the body of this claim that requires the claimed structure to be an automobile floor mat. Thus an examiner may well regard "automobile" as being a mere statement of intended use and may reject the claim based on prior art disclosing the claimed "semi-rigid monolayer" whether or not the prior art structure was designed for use in an automobile. Or intended to be placed on a floor. Or perhaps even whether it was intended to be used as a mat.

I know it's an example and all, but with examples like these, you have to understand why people are suspicious of the claims of "novelty" made by patent lawyers and the inventors they represent. I mean, you're saying "someone else might have invented this hi-tech dimpled, sloped monolayer thingy, but WE were the only ones smart enough to use it as a floor mat!"

I wouldn't hold a mere example against you all so much if I hadn't seen issued patents like the one where the *only* "novel" element was the fact that it used 4 knowledge bases (not 3, nor 5, nor...) and that fact was buried deep in the prosecution history...

Maybe I should go patent using it as a floor mat?

Every time I hear this discussion on the so-called best ways to keep from over-limiting a claim in a patent application, I can't help but wonder how often over-limiting language in a patent has actually helped defend against invalidity. My view is that it is impossible to know until the issues in litigation are fully vetted.

I think the best bet is to determine what the client wants the patent for, and write the patent for that purpose. Figuring out how to draft the patent for litigation down the line is likely an impossible task.

"Claim Drafting Strategies Revisited — How Much, If Any, Preamble Is Necessary?," Intellectual Property Today (April 2004).

http://www.crowell.com/documents/DOCASSOCFKTYPE_ARTICLES_441.pdf

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